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Debian Sarge frozen - 2005/05/13 22:57 The next version of debian (Sarge) is now frozen and only allowing release critical bugs to be submitted. They expect a release around the end of may. (of course many people have got bored of waiting and are using the testing version anyway).

News letter with the announcement:
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2005/19/

This is good news as there are quite a few smaller distributions that are based on a debian core. (I know many off shoots of both debian and red-hat and a few of the other big distributions)

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Re: Debian Sarge frozen - 2005/06/10 14:00 Well as of the 6th of June Debian 3.1 (Sarge) was offically released. Which is good news considering the last major release was 3.0 (Woody) which was released on the 19th of July 2002.
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Re: Debian Sarge frozen - 2005/06/10 16:24 Wow, that's some delay.

Personally, I like Slackware, and they have flexible deadlines as well
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Re: Debian Sarge frozen - 2005/06/10 23:49
Debian 3.1 is noticeably more security-conscious than other major distributions. You need the root password to mount removable drives or shut down the system. Similarly, as a minor obstacle to script kiddies, the root user cannot log in to a desktop. Nor are any unnecessary daemons configured, with the possible exception of atd.

Groups are also carefully organized. Debian 3.1 defines separate groups for basic system functions such as exim, crontab, and message bus, and membership in all groups is tightly controlled. The user account created during installation is added only to the video and plugdev groups. Users added after installation are not even added to those groups by default. Nor is any user included in the user or games groups, as they are in many distributions. The result is a system in which the security principle of least privilege is tightly observed. In other words, no user has more access to the system than is absolutely required unless it is deliberately added.

Strangely, Debian 3.1 omits enabling a firewall during installation. However, this lapse can be quickly remedied by running Bastille immediately after installation -- a step that anyone interested in security should consider anyway.

Users of Windows or commercial GNU/Linux distributions may find the security-consciousness of Debian 3.1 irksome. However, the inconveniences are small compared to the potential benefits. And, frankly, it's refreshing to see security chosen over convenience for once -- if only as a counter-example.


That's a step forward according to the fact that all Linux distros fail to have an easy to use security system by default, many developers not implementing for the sake of Linux flexibility.

However, since we are foulish asked if we want a server or a worstation setup, I think this is necesary. Personally, I'm a fan of custom setup as that's the only way to get more free space and less useless daemons.
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Re: Debian Sarge frozen - 2005/06/13 20:32 I completely agree. Debian would be my OS of choice if I was setting up a server. I've used it for years and like the complete freedom of customising it to how I want. Not to mention the security.

But for a desktop OS it is just too technical and even with a good few years experience with debian I struggle to get some stuff working at times, not to mention the length of time for everything to enter the stable dist, hence many people using the testing dist.

However I think knoppix is based on debian and is one of the best live linux CD's around currently (used to keep a copy handy in case someone was curious what linux was like but didn't want to install it).
I'm currently downloading Ubuntu which is also debian based to see what thats like. I've heard it's supposed to be quite good, even if it is a fairly young distribution it aims to have regular releases and aimed at desktop PC users. So should save me spending hours trying to customise debian and setting up the hardware.

So even if debian isn't going to replace apple/microsoft they may help in the long term to create the foundations of a linux distribution which might become popular on desktop PC's.

Daniel

(I have no intention of starting a 'which is the best distribution' thread. I'm biased towards debian as I have used it for years but agree that dispite what some hardcore Debian people might say it is still a server OS rather than a desktop OS)
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